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Generic / Re: Implement random port rather than 6881 by default
« on: May 28, 2015, 05:58:07 PM »
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Ah alrighty. Haven't seen it while scrolling then. If it appeared earlier on GitHub than this thread, I guess I'm sorry then. If not, then this thread fulfilled its purpose.

You're welcome, no need to say sorry.

I couldn't find it at Github so fast but ill take a look tomorrow and might open an issue for you.

Edit:
There you go: https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/3089

Nice, thank you!

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Generic / Re: Implement random port rather than 6881 by default
« on: May 24, 2015, 01:26:34 AM »
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Even the dumbest person should be able to use the program without any problems."

Unfortunately, based on experience on two or three "torrenting" forums BT client protocol users tend to be even dumber in 'computer stuff'  than average, but are not willing to consider  that they might be.

[...]
There will always be persons who are dumber than the users you somewhat mentioned. I guess the users can be happy to be able to successfully install the client, while others already get problems with that.
Anyway, I was talking about the usability about programs, not the knowledge about configuring those programs correctly.

I'll be honest and say that I don't know the difference between 'bandwidth' and 'transfer rate'. Surely some searching would help, but I am (as the new day has begun in my area) too tired for that. Just writing, and that's it. Telling you about my lack of knowledge, I surely know more about other things. Yet knowledge has to be shared, and that's why there is the internet, and specifically forums like these. I guess reading things in forums made me learn half of the things I use nowadays.
As addition: Thanks for clearing up things about Chrome OS! You somewhat enlightened me in that direction.


I think that something similiar as this was at Github also and might be marked already. There is am option to randomize the port after starting up qBittorrent but qBittorrent should do this automaticly instead using 6881. I agree on this also.
Ah alrighty. Haven't seen it while scrolling then. If it appeared earlier on GitHub than this thread, I guess I'm sorry then. If not, then this thread fulfilled its purpose.

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Generic / Re: Implement random port rather than 6881 by default
« on: May 23, 2015, 04:58:57 PM »
Not every ISP blocks or throttles port 6881 traffic, and sometimes it HAS to be the end user that takes responsibility for what they may have to do.

You are definitely not telling me something new.
Additionally, I didn't state that every ISP throttles the port 6881, but many do.

I remember the words of my informatics teacher: "Always think as a DTU, the Dumbest Thinkable User, while you are programming. Even the dumbest person should be able to use the program without any problems."

Now, let's suppose a DTU, who came to qBittorrent because other clients suck (ads, CPU-hog...), tries to download a (well-seeded) torrent with port 6881, but his ISP throttles this port. DTU has no real experience on how to modify the settings, as he never did it with other clients, where the downloads filled his line's actual download speed. He has no idea of his ISP throttling this port.

What does DTU do? Right, he switches to the client he previously used and tells everybody not to use qBittorrent, because it is a slow BT-client, and everything worked better with other client. The other client automatically set a randomized port when starting the first time, unlike qBittorrent with the port 6881.

Sidenote: DTU is lazy as hell and doesn't want to go deeper in things, as his actual life is already hard enough.


(somewhat) off topic:
I made this thread just to say that there are many users out there who never changed the port, and are victims of traffic shaping without even knowing.
Saying this, it is the knowledge combined with daily dose of peers who are seeding with qBittorrent while I leech the torrent, and the seeders consist out of 90% with a set port of 6881, because they (probably) only need the client for downloading/seeding torrents, although they may get throttled by their ISP. This is why I linked the study, to give you an overview for the situation of throttling the port 6881 (or even the range from 6881 to 6889).

It was just the idea of implementing the feature of having a randomized port when starting qBittorrent the very first time, as this is easier for every user, especially the DTU.

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Generic / Re: Implement random port rather than 6881 by default
« on: May 23, 2015, 01:46:17 PM »
Keep in mind that most tutorials* for port forwarding tells users to forward the port 6881.

For example:
http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Torrent/Torrentindex.htm
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/bittorrent/qt/bittorrentports.htm


Didn't know that someone would reply to this thread, thus my reply also comes a bit late.

Actually, I don't get the idea why some people keep telling users that they should port-forward the port 6881.
Looking on the Glasnost-study by Max Planck Institute definitely shows that up- and downloads on the BitTorrent-port (which, in my thoughts, is the port 6881) are slowed down up to 85%, which is just a pure disadvantage for people who download files with qBittorrent, and never really looked into the settings to change i.e. the port.

And because of these concerns I created this thread...

Apart from that, I could download torrents withough even thinking about to change my port, as my ISP isn't shaping any traffic, yet not everyone has my ISP as theirs.

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Generic / Re: qtorrent with Chrome OS
« on: May 23, 2015, 01:15:49 AM »
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Chrome isn't 'that kind' of operating system.

Now I am curious on how you mean that expression. Could you explain it a little more please?

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Windows / Re: qbittorrent 3.1.12
« on: May 23, 2015, 01:14:26 AM »
Just as a quick note.
Dropbox unlikely is serving as a webseed. As far as I have heard, they even blocked that functionality for some reason (I did a little research as I was going to do the same, to back up some files).
With µTorrent for example, you would get some "b0rked" failure (can't remember the full name for it, haven't been using µTorrent for a looooong time).

If you want a webseed, look for a good hosting provider. Sadly, most free providers with limited bandwidth (and especially unlimited bandwidth) block such webseeds (my example: quickly uploaded a little mp4-file to my hosting space, tried to download it; webseed changes from *.*.net/file.mp4 to *.net/403).

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Linux / Re: Can't add torrents from nyaa.eu
« on: May 11, 2015, 11:05:20 PM »
To me it sounds like you download the .torrent-file and it directly opens qBittorrent.

Did you try to just download the .torrent-files to your PC and open it from your Download directory instead of directly into qBittorrent?

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Thanks for releasing the new and awaited version!
I tried out the beta for some time, but switched back as it was a bit unstable, but running the updated version I see that you guys made some important fixes and changes, which proves that qBittorrent is a reliable and stable program :)
For now it's doing its work more than fine as it should, and that's chilling.

Thank you again!

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Cafe lounge / Re: [POLL] Favourite Music Player?
« on: May 11, 2015, 07:02:44 PM »
As for me, I use Spotify for music I don't own, and VLC for music I have on my HDD.

I used to use Nightingale (the continuation of Songbird, as POTI stopped continuing Songbird), but it somewhat corrupted all of my MP3s/FLACs. If Nightingale fixes that, some stability issues and also a little faster startup time, I'd surely go back to it.
For now, VLC is enough, as I don't really need a fancy GUI; and Spotify as mentioned on the first line.

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Alright. So, first off, today I installed the beta the first time.
So far, it's running fine, as the stable version of qBittorrent does.

But there is one thing. When checking the trackers, I clicked on "Error" (which contains 17 torrents).
When looking on the tracker of a torrent, every single tracker seemed to work. I removed all trackers which had 0 peers, so there are only 'really' working trackers left. Yet, the torrent is still listed under the category "Error".

EDIT from April 13, 2015:
Additionally, I noticed a problem of resolving the peer countries (GeoIP). For example, xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.baf.movistar.cl (originally a chilean peer) is shown as a peer from the USA. This also happened with other peers.

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Introductions / Re: Beh.
« on: March 08, 2015, 10:58:45 AM »
Thank you both for welcoming me.

I will definitely take a look at the page for translation!

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Generic / Re: Implement random port rather than 6881 by default
« on: March 08, 2015, 10:49:15 AM »
Apparently you didn't look in the settings (or you're using a really old version)
Tools->Options...->Connection->Listening Port->Use different port on each startup

PS: Of course this doesn't exclude 6881-6889, but it is unlikely that you'll randomly select that most of the time.

Advanced users can change this, as I did. But the normal-day user, who more or less accidentially came to qBittorrent might have some problems and would switch to the better known BT-clients, as they probably don't have such problems, just because they set a random port by default.

Nah nah nah. That's not what I meant.
I meant, that the default port, when you freshly installed qBittorrent, is ALWAYS 6881. Most normal users don't get into the advanced settings, thus they remain with the port and probably get throttled.
As for µTorrent (worst example, but still), it sets some random port after being freshly installed. Same applies to BitTorrent (obviously), Deluge and pretty much every BitTorrent-client that is regulary updated nowadays.

I just read my text and well, asked myself of what I was writing. Hope you understood it now :P

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Introductions / Beh.
« on: March 07, 2015, 05:31:40 PM »
Hello.

I actually have no idea why I should introduce myself, as I probably won't be a daily user on this forum.

However. I am brot0, a daily qBittorrent user since some months.

My little BitTorrent history begins back when µTorrent 2.2 (or BitTorrent 7.2) got released. Unexperienced and unaware of the power of P2P I randomly downloaded files, without knowing how the system works. After reading some articles (Wikipedia and many other more or less reliable sources), I somewhat got into BitTorrent now.
I've been a user of µTorrent until version 3.3, back then I changed to BitTorrent (not a big difference though), then to Deluge and various other clients.
Right now, I am somewhat stuck with qBittorrent, as µTorrent/BitTorrent has gone adware and other clients can't beat qBittorrent at all. Since version 3.1.12 got released, I am more than satisfied with qBittorrent, as it is stable, fast, reliable with seeding/leeching and... free :)

As a daily user of this program, I'd like to dearly thank the developers at this point for creating the program. When the time has come, I'm going to donate some money, as this software is definitely worth it!

What I nearly forgot to mention is, that I have my little own-coded website. It's not the best-looking one on the internet, but it definitely fulfills its purpose.
Link: http://sumtingwentrong.bplaced.net/
Also, I mirrored both the Mac OS X-version and the Windows-version of qBittorrent on it, in the hope that this is okay with you (which I believe).

Otherwise, if any help is needed with things in translation, I'd be ready to work with you guys. My current vocabulary contains fluent German (as it is my mother tounge), pretty much fluent English, some (bad) French, and a little piece of Swedish (learning it on my own).

~brot0

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Generic / Implement random port rather than 6881 by default
« on: March 07, 2015, 05:18:45 PM »
Hello there.

I'm a fresh user, as you can see, and during the years I have been trying out various BitTorrent-clients until now. Currently I'm pretty much stuck with qBittorrent, and I'm happy with it.

To come to my point:
As I have seen it many many times, the default port that qBittorrent uses is 6881.
Seen from one side, this has no real matter. From the other side, it is more of a obstacle for some users, as their ISPs throttle a special range of ports (AFAIK 6881-6889).
Advanced users can change this, as I did. But the normal-day user, who more or less accidentially came to qBittorrent might have some problems and would switch to the better known BT-clients, as they probably don't have such problems, just because they set a random port by default.
Now, my question is: Is there the possibility to set a random port by default excluding the port ranges 6881-6889?
My thoughts would go the way, that directly after starting qBittorrent the very first time the default port is anything but the previously mentioned port range.

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